Today chatted with CCL to know that he's sick bother mentally and physically. So do I. I hope that he can recover quickly. Of course I always want to gossip with more people to know both sides of the story. Surprisingly, he has the same opinion as me and others. Anyway, both sides see programmers as low level. But both sides treat them differently. I was just doing a simple excel sheet with VBA to do some what-if analysis. The chinaman saw it and asked me why am I doing that, why do I waste time doing that. I started to have different opinion on this matter. He thinks that programming task should be left to other people, and we just concentrate on the few formulae. What I think is, I wasn't wasting my time, just that I'm doing something help me arrive at the end results. Mr BLOG